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--- askingbids [2017/04/03 02:04] – johnkinn
+++ askingbids [2023/07/31 01:04] (current) – external edit 127.0.0.1
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 ====Asking Bids====
-We use only three of the asking bids; Alpha, Gamma and a control ask.
+We use only two <del>three</del> of the asking bids; Alpha, Gamma <del>and a control ask</del>.
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 Suppose the bidding begins 1\C - 1\H - 1\S; 1\S is Alpha and asks for responses as follows:
-|1st step (1N)|no positive support for \ss (less than Hxx or xxxx) and not more than 3 controls |
+|1st step (1N)|no positive support for \ss (less than \sHxx or \sxxxx) and not more than 3 controls |
 |2nd step (2\C)|no positive support for \ss, but upwards of 4 controls|
-|3rd step (2\D)|positive support (Hxx, xxxx, or better), but not more than 3 controls|
+|3rd step (2\D)|positive support (\sHxx, \sxxxx, or better), but not more than 3 controls|
 |4th step (2\H)|positive support, upwards of 4 controls|
-|5th step (2\S)| 4-card positive support (Hxxx or better) upwards of 4 controls|
+|5th step (2\S)| 4-card positive support (\sHxxx or better) upwards of 4 controls|
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   - If responder has shown a balanced hand of 7 to 12 or 15 up, then the 6th step shows no fit with 15+ HCP and the 7th shows a fit with 15+ HCP. Neither response promises or denies a specific number of controls.
-  - If responder has shown a suit, then the 6th and higher steps are natural, deny as many as 4 controls and show a singleton or void in opener's suit.
+  - If responder has shown a suit, then the 6th and higher steps are natural, deny as many as 4 controls and show a singleton or void in opener's suit. The 5\+-5\+ responding hand will have 6\+ losers if a jump is made.  With 5 losers or fewer, bid the first step (no fit, 3 controls or fewer).  Agreed   --- //[[John@Kinn.Org|John Kinn]] 2017/05/18 15:46//
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 |\DQx|\DAJxx|
 |\CQJ10xx|\CAxx |
+|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
 |1\C|1\S|
 |2\C|2N (fit with 4+ controls)|
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 |--------------------------------------------------------------------------------||
 |\SAKx|\Sxx|
-|hAQx|\HKxxx|
+|\hAQx|\HKxxx|
 |\DQx|\DAJxx|
 |\CQJ10xx|\CAxx|
+|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------||
 |1\C|1\S|
 |2\C|2N (fit with 4+ controls)|
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 ===The control ask===
+We no longer play control ask, 1NT is natural in the sequences below, and so are responses to it.
+** OBSOLETE - BEGIN **
 In forcing auctions that begin with opener bidding 1N as his first natural bid after a positive natural bid by responder, the 1N bid asks for controls:
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 |1N|||
+** OBSOLETE - END **