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--- discussion_points [2017/06/22 22:30] – johnkinn
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 Here will be links to points within the system notes which are new or require discussion.  After the non-poster --- Gábor if John posted, John if Gábor posted --- has read the discussion point, he will make a notation here to that effect along with a response.
-New discussion point regarding rebids by a passed hand.  See [[1_plain_suit2#RelayByPassedHand|Relay by passed hand]]
+I agree with those. I would also add that the second relay cannot be declarer's first suit. E.g.
+\S-1N / 2\H-2\S is just a non-invitational 3 card preference to \S, and at most a singleton \H. (The hand cannot be invitational, as in that case there was a 5 card minor to bid -- although this logic could be applied to the non-passed hand, too...)
+\D-1N-2\C-2\D is also not second relay, it may have 4\D, did not want to bypass the 5-3 or 5-4 fit in a major.
+ --- //[[GDrasny@gmail.com|Gábor Drasny]] 2017/06/22 20:50//
+Those points are exactly why I said a **new suit** is a relay.
+Ah, ok. Looks like I needed to have it spelled out for me...